You are gonna make me bring one Deleon aren't you.This answered several of my questions, i may try renting one just to get a taste!
You are gonna make me bring one Deleon aren't you.This answered several of my questions, i may try renting one just to get a taste!
That's probably the only way i'll get to shoot with one!!!! I'm actually going to try to convince the dairy owner it would save him money, surely with 42 pigs eating ground corn every night it would pay off eventually! Wish me luck!!!!You are gonna make me bring one Deleon aren't you.
You need help with those 42 hogs??? BANG BANG BANG!!!!That's probably the only way i'll get to shoot with one!!!! I'm actually going to try to convince the dairy owner it would save him money, surely with 42 pigs eating ground corn every night it would pay off eventually! Wish me luck!!!!
Yes PVS-14 goes behind clip ons go in front totally different specs.Learn something new everyday. The way I read it was the article was referring to optics behind the NV. I will try and find it and reread. NV is pretty straight forward other than the different kinds you can get just like anything else there are different models out there, but I suppose it can be confusing to some like anything else (scopes in general) Heck I am still learning that whole ordeal with mil-rad, mil-dot, moa, and on and on!! BANG BANG!!
The screen seems pretty small on the apollo to me it will work just not ideal in my opinion. The MKII has the normal screen for dedicated scope mode then the smaller screen for the clip on mode. I find 3x is the magic spot for hunting in general but again that is just my preference.rgilbert and TLM,
Thanks again for the replies.
I think I understand the answer to the question I was asking. More clearly put, I was wondering if, when used as a stand alone, you see a small screen in a wide field of view or if the screen fills much or all of the view.
From your videos, TLM, the screen on the Apollo appears small when viewed at 1x, which is why I asked the question since I can see using whichever unit I buy as a stand alone at times.
rgilbert informs that it is pretty much the same with the MKII, but he also informs us that unless he crowds the scope he is seeing all screen and not a relatively small screen in a field of black.
Thanks also rgilbert on your assessment of the MKII's. I tend to favor field of view over magnification in my selection of scopes for day hunting, and I don't think it will be different for night hunting. I'll want to use the unit for scanning sometimes too, and I think FOV would be important for that use. I use 8x32 binos most of the time for day use, and part of my preference for those is FOV. Moreover, with the ability to use a 20mm 1.45x MKII as a clip on in front of a, say, 1.1x4 day scope I am not limited to 1.45x or 2x and 4x digital zoom options only. With the screen filling the view at about 2.5x as you report, total magnification would be about 3.6x, which is a very versatile level of magnification. (And is right within TLM's "sweet spot" of 3x-4x with the Apollo, and 3x-4x sure seems to work for him!)
JPK
Yes PVS-14 goes behind clip ons go in front totally different specs.
Yes, when you change the scope to clip on mode the screen size gets smaller due to you not needing the larger screen with a day scope mounted behind. I have found I prefer to use it as a stand alone. I just put it on after you posed your question about clip on's. It works and I would have no problem using it as such. It does have a bracket reticle that you can co witness to you day scope and then turn on the reticle in the scope for recording your hunt. Without doing this you can still record everyone else just won't see what your aiming point is.Thanks, I wasn't aware that screen size changes in the MKII when you change modes from reticle/day scope to no reticle/clip on.
wigwamitus,
I know it's possible since I have read where guys were able to use filters behind a 3x lens.
The guy who would know which filter would work is Delta4-3.
JPK
The 19 will work great far a scanner or a dedicated scope. The Patrol cost more money, but I have not played with one yet. What I have found is the thermal makes it hard to see after you have it up to your eye for a while. My NV does not do this. I will say it has a place in the night hunting we do. I would not have recovered the big hog I shot last weekend without thermal.Thanks again. It sure does help.
Since NV and thermal are new to me and my son I am looking for versatility. I can't say, "Hmm, need to up grade my scanning tool," or "A stand alone would be easier than a clip on" or vice versa.
I figure we buy one piece of gear at a time and use it and evaluate it vs. our needs and then get the next. So, for example, if the 19mm MKII works well as a scanner, then maybe for a dedicated scanner we get the forthcoming Patrol, and we have the comfort of knowing that the MKII works great as at least a stand alone or clip on....
JPK
... What I have found is the thermal makes it hard to see after you have it up to your eye for a while