X2. I had an ATN Thor 2x 30mm 320 for a year and sold it as soon as I looked through a 640. Haven't looked back.Definitely go with a 640 if possible, Even if you have to wait on other stuff.
THANKS for everybody suggestions. I bought the zuess pro 640 2x16x50mm 30hz. Waiting for it to be delivered. Early next year i will be buying a monocular for helmet. What grade tube should i look for. And signal to noise ratio. Does anyone have suggestions. I hope this thermal was a good investment.
Good info , did you get 30hz or 60hz on your zeusI got into night hunting with a couple ATN Gen 1 NV scopes. After deciding that I liked it, I did what most people do and tell you to do, and got a PVS14 and helmet and all accessories. Then I got lonely, and got a second 14 with helmet and accessories. Then a buddy got an Armasight Nemesis 4x Gen 2 white phosphor rifle scope, and i liked it so much that I got one for my dad just like it. Then, I got an ATN Thor 60Hz 2x 320, used it for a year and got the Zeus 640 75mm 640 3x. Once me and my hunting buddies got the Nemesis NV rifle scopes and I got the Thor (and just recently got the two Zeus 640 3x units) the PVS14s only get used on very, very ink black nights or on starlight nights in the woods. We do 90+% of our night hunting in open fields and most of the rest is in stationary positions. For our style of night hunting, the rifle-mounted NV and thermal scopes just work so much better than helmet mounted PVS14s do. We do use the rifle-mounted thermals and NV scopes for scanning a lot. If I could trade one of my PVS14s, TW helmet, IR illuminator and an IR laser or two for a good thermal spotter, I'd have to think real hard about the deal.
I bet I could get you in to a gen 3 PVS-14 and a thermal for under your budget.I was going to get a themal scope and a night vision monocular for a helmet. I was thinking on the 50mm 2 x 16 640 pro 30 hz and getting a good moncular for a helmet. I did not have quite enough money. So the sells person was saying get the 336 4x 50mm and a mil scec moncular. If i wait a little bit i can get both. But i just wanted opinions on the thermal scope.
I know a guy, that knows a guy, that could probably help you out there. He even has several thermal spotters you could borrow.I got into night hunting with a couple ATN Gen 1 NV scopes. After deciding that I liked it, I did what most people do and tell you to do, and got a PVS14 and helmet and all accessories. Then I got lonely, and got a second 14 with helmet and accessories. Then a buddy got an Armasight Nemesis 4x Gen 2 white phosphor rifle scope, and i liked it so much that I got one for my dad just like it. Then, I got an ATN Thor 60Hz 2x 320, used it for a year and got the Zeus 640 75mm 640 3x. Once me and my hunting buddies got the Nemesis NV rifle scopes and I got the Thor (and just recently got the two Zeus 640 3x units) the PVS14s only get used on very, very ink black nights or on starlight nights in the woods. We do 90+% of our night hunting in open fields and most of the rest is in stationary positions. For our style of night hunting, the rifle-mounted NV and thermal scopes just work so much better than helmet mounted PVS14s do. We do use the rifle-mounted thermals and NV scopes for scanning a lot. If I could trade one of my PVS14s, TW helmet, IR illuminator and an IR laser or two for a good thermal spotter, I'd have to think real hard about the deal.
I already owe you too much money.....I know a guy, that knows a guy, that could probably help you out there. He even has several thermal spotters you could borrow.
Now i need to figure out how to work. So for i can zoom in and out and use the brightness control. Going to mount it this weekend on a pws t3 summit 22 rimfire with a Element 2 suppressor. Any suggestions on easy adjustment for image quality.
Sounds goodWhen I got my Zeus I loaded up a cooler with beer, got a lawn chair, and just sat outside for 3-4 hours. It's pretty intuitive.