Since you guys are ignoring my nv queries I'll go ahead and ask another, lol, jk. These units are out there at pretty cheap prices. I've had a few people out to hunt with me, and I've come to the conclusion that I don't like them using my gear.......rifle with Zeus, my helmet, my pvs14, other rifle with an ir laser, no, I don't like it. It's like the guy with the new q14 said, they're more interested in not dropping their beer over the thermal monoc. But, there are friends and family I'd like to get involved. These things look bomb proof and they are pretty cheap. I was thinking maybe it would be a viable guest optic on plain AR. I can't tell much from YouTube vids. Any thoughts?