Pulsar Thermal Monoculars
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Thanks for the informative video. Does this mean your surgery went well and you are doing good? 
Good stuff, thanks for posting!! BANG BANG!!
Yes and no. I'm ok, but was supposed to get two things done at once in little rock. That then got moved to Springfield, a couple times. The first part was getting some junk cleaned out, scar tissue, bone spurs, etc. That was fine. But, the specialist who was supposed to do the fusion decided not to show up for work that day, so now I have to go back and get it separate, which is two recoveries (albeit, the first is minor). I've since got authorization to go outside the VA for the fusion, since they screwed up 3 of my 11 surgeries (to include cutting on the wrong side of my body and taking the wrong parts out.) The doctor I will be seeing now does not have an open spot for me until January 6th, so I'll at least get a month of work in between Holidays.Thanks for the informative video. Does this mean your surgery went well and you are doing good?
What they did accomplish was to waste a colossal amount of my time and get me behind. I do have another employee that just started. He is training up and will be helping me answer the phone and produce products in house, and can hopefully keep me from getting behind again when I go in on the 6th.
Agreed. FLIR handhelds don't even come close to the Pulsar's, sadly enough. I like the 19a for around here, because we don't have open terrain...but man, the image on the 38 is awesome.HD19a if your on a budget, HD38s if you have the extra$$. Trust me, I have wasted enough on FLIR to know!
I can make it easy. Buy one, sell your wife's vehicle, and get the other, with some room to buy guns and whatnot.
wigwamitus
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Ok, this provides another option for thermal monoculars, what about thermal scopes? And what about those funny things they call "Forward Attachments" ? Any thermal "Forward Attachments" on the radar screen?
Yup, I'm going to slip out during the Thanksgiving festivities and do a video on their scopes. There are some of those Forward attachments on the way as well.
I have the 19A and it is a very nice spotter, especially for the $'s. It comes with two four AA battery packs which are very easy to change out in the field, and each battery pack gives a remarkable run time.
I would love to see a thermal Pulsar "Forward Attachment" clip on!
JPK
I would love to see a thermal Pulsar "Forward Attachment" clip on!
JPK
wigwamitus
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Me too, though I worry that they might only work as clipons when mounted to the front of the objective
This is pic of the i2 "Forward Attachment" ...
No evidence of a rail mount capability (for the i2 FA).
This is pic of the i2 "Forward Attachment" ...
No evidence of a rail mount capability (for the i2 FA).
Excellent video very informative.
wigwamitus
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I have ATN/PS-22, which came with 5 different scope mounts for mounting on the front of the objective as well as a rail mount. I started off using the direct scope mounts. This is PS-22 scope mounted on .22LR in front of L&S 3.5-10x TMR
Before first mounting, I called L&S to find out what torqage I could use to mount the scope to the objective, they replied 25-30 inch pounds, I so torqued. I moved back and forth between the .22LR and the 7.62 in those days so was monunting and unmounting fairly often. After six months the scope mount broke. A new one was $80 from Optics Planet. I called ATN, they said "best results obtained from rail mounting", so while I still have all the direct scope mounts and would do it in a pinch, since then I have been rail mounting. ATN said, if I will mount on the objective, not to torque, but to hand tighten as well. I did try that a few times, but it came loose. So I have to check it a lot if using direct scope mount. My "hand" tight is somewhere between 10-15 inch pounds.
So, I added rails to bolt guns to facilitate rail mounting of clipons:
.338LM with CO-LR in front of L&S 8.5-25x TMR
.308WIN with Apollo in front of L&S 3-18x H58
Before first mounting, I called L&S to find out what torqage I could use to mount the scope to the objective, they replied 25-30 inch pounds, I so torqued. I moved back and forth between the .22LR and the 7.62 in those days so was monunting and unmounting fairly often. After six months the scope mount broke. A new one was $80 from Optics Planet. I called ATN, they said "best results obtained from rail mounting", so while I still have all the direct scope mounts and would do it in a pinch, since then I have been rail mounting. ATN said, if I will mount on the objective, not to torque, but to hand tighten as well. I did try that a few times, but it came loose. So I have to check it a lot if using direct scope mount. My "hand" tight is somewhere between 10-15 inch pounds.
So, I added rails to bolt guns to facilitate rail mounting of clipons:
.338LM with CO-LR in front of L&S 8.5-25x TMR
.308WIN with Apollo in front of L&S 3-18x H58
Thanks for sharing a very nformative video Aaron. I compared a friend's 19a pulsar to my X320 and was surprised. The 19a put the x320 to shame when considering image quality and the display size.
I wish the 19 and 32 pulsars were around when I bought my x320.
I wish the 19 and 32 pulsars were around when I bought my x320.
wigwamitus
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Ok, well you (Jeff) asked !!!
01 - Extended Rail
These are custom by Ken Farrell Manufacturing, Warsaw, MO. They are 70175 Aluminum, I went with AL for weight. They are a wee bit "floppy" so I use a "red-neck-bedded" idea suggested by Aaron, a small amount of rubber cut to size (from my spare exercise mat) and gorilla glued to the front bottom of the rail. If the barrel moves up due to recoil, the rubber with compress a bit. The rail cannot flop down and touch the barrel, due to the rubber. This simple "r-n" idea seems to be working well, even on the .338LM. They are 20 inches long and that is a good length. If I had it to do over again I would add side rails as this would probably add enough strength to avoid any "flop". But these rails work for me, with the CO-LR on the .338LM or any other clipon on these bolt guns.
02 - Dual NODS
The better you can see, the faster you can go with confidence. If I am driving a vehicle containing others, with front glass, then the dual 14s are wonderful, that is their sweet spot. If I am out by myself and mostly on foot, then I don't find the weight to be worth the "see better". If it is really, really dark, then the 2 PVS-14s helps even on foot.
I am 100% glad I have 2 x PVS-14s though, as "two is one" and when one has to go to the unit depot, or even the main depot, I still have 1 x PVS-14 to use. And right now, one PVS-14 is in unit depot (at Aaron's) getting a new housing and I still have one PVS-14 on my helmet ready to go!
So, if you are a high frequency user (I average 3.5 night outings per week over 34 months) then I definitely recommend pairs of all critical gear. I have 2 x PVS-14, 2 x ir Clipon, 2 thermals.
Now, you said Dual NODS, not just dual 14s. So I also have a Q-14 helmet mountable monocular. I can mount it by itself on my other helmet using USGI mount. But goal is to mount side by side with PVS-14. This problem is equivalent problem to mounting a MUM-14 beside a PVS-14 and I guess not too many people need to do that - so I am a "one off" case. Aaron and Pete are both noodling the problem. I hope we can come up with a solution!
In the mean time, I can hold it up there, with left hand while riding on 4-wheeler and spot deer a few hundred yards away while in motion and that is the type of use case I had in mind. Ability to do hands free detection while moving. At the same time, I can use the pvs-14 on the other eye to see to drive. It works! But holding the q-14 up there is not convenient for driving and generates arm fatigue, so getting to the point of hands free will be useful.
On good thermal performance nights, I can roll with just the q-14 up there and keep a pvs-14 in a pouch for backup and that works fine. But on a poor thermal performance night I cannot see well enough to drive. I could still see critters in a sea of grey, but need the pvs-14 up there with the q-14 to be able to both see well enough to drive AND detect critters.
So a different sort of Dual NODS, which I think will definitely be worth it.
For basic foot navigation and hunting navigation on most nights, one PVS-14 on the head works fine.
01 - Extended Rail
These are custom by Ken Farrell Manufacturing, Warsaw, MO. They are 70175 Aluminum, I went with AL for weight. They are a wee bit "floppy" so I use a "red-neck-bedded" idea suggested by Aaron, a small amount of rubber cut to size (from my spare exercise mat) and gorilla glued to the front bottom of the rail. If the barrel moves up due to recoil, the rubber with compress a bit. The rail cannot flop down and touch the barrel, due to the rubber. This simple "r-n" idea seems to be working well, even on the .338LM. They are 20 inches long and that is a good length. If I had it to do over again I would add side rails as this would probably add enough strength to avoid any "flop". But these rails work for me, with the CO-LR on the .338LM or any other clipon on these bolt guns.
02 - Dual NODS
The better you can see, the faster you can go with confidence. If I am driving a vehicle containing others, with front glass, then the dual 14s are wonderful, that is their sweet spot. If I am out by myself and mostly on foot, then I don't find the weight to be worth the "see better". If it is really, really dark, then the 2 PVS-14s helps even on foot.
I am 100% glad I have 2 x PVS-14s though, as "two is one" and when one has to go to the unit depot, or even the main depot, I still have 1 x PVS-14 to use. And right now, one PVS-14 is in unit depot (at Aaron's) getting a new housing and I still have one PVS-14 on my helmet ready to go!
So, if you are a high frequency user (I average 3.5 night outings per week over 34 months) then I definitely recommend pairs of all critical gear. I have 2 x PVS-14, 2 x ir Clipon, 2 thermals.
Now, you said Dual NODS, not just dual 14s. So I also have a Q-14 helmet mountable monocular. I can mount it by itself on my other helmet using USGI mount. But goal is to mount side by side with PVS-14. This problem is equivalent problem to mounting a MUM-14 beside a PVS-14 and I guess not too many people need to do that - so I am a "one off" case. Aaron and Pete are both noodling the problem. I hope we can come up with a solution!
In the mean time, I can hold it up there, with left hand while riding on 4-wheeler and spot deer a few hundred yards away while in motion and that is the type of use case I had in mind. Ability to do hands free detection while moving. At the same time, I can use the pvs-14 on the other eye to see to drive. It works! But holding the q-14 up there is not convenient for driving and generates arm fatigue, so getting to the point of hands free will be useful.
On good thermal performance nights, I can roll with just the q-14 up there and keep a pvs-14 in a pouch for backup and that works fine. But on a poor thermal performance night I cannot see well enough to drive. I could still see critters in a sea of grey, but need the pvs-14 up there with the q-14 to be able to both see well enough to drive AND detect critters.
So a different sort of Dual NODS, which I think will definitely be worth it.
For basic foot navigation and hunting navigation on most nights, one PVS-14 on the head works fine.