Lonepunman- perhaps a little of both. Due to the heavy woods changing locations isn’t much of an option for me. So I used 3 different calls. First 2 sets were about 15 minuets each. The last one was more like 25. When I heard the response from the sounder and began to see them moving through the woods I just continued the call. The last call used was “hey baby”. I started calling about 4 pm. Took my shots about 4:45 pm.