http://www.ammosc.com/6-8-spc-15-rd-magazine/
So I took it upon myself to verify the claims and contacted ASC to send me some sample mags for testing. Within 24 hours I had a reply notifying me that they would be happy to send me 2 15 round mag via UPS. So far so good, quick reply and had the mags in my hands within a week even with the nasty weather they had up there.
The mags where packed very well and had no chance being damaged, unless it was run over by a Mack truck. The mags where individually wrapped in a sealed plastic bag. Here are some pics of the mags and how I received them.
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First thing I noticed that the finish was different than my older ASC mag. It has much more black not like a lighter gray with my older ASC, they also added their name and logo to one side and the SS was stamped better. The follower and spring looked identical. The floor plate was changed a little, first the new plate has a slight bow to help with retention, second the stamping was changed with their new logo. The feel of the finish is pretty slick when compared to the older finish, in fact it is the sickest feeling mag I have and even better than any of my PRI's. Overall the changes where great and visually I have nothing bad to say. Here are some more pics to give you a idea what I am seeing.
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So I got right to work and preceded to measure the I.D. of the mag body's. So taking my dial calipers I measured the body's and here are the results. Within the range of the claims 2.3145 and 2.3155.
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Of course that would not be enough to satisfy my curiosity so I took things a bit further. I decided to needed to make some live rounds at different OAL's and see how far I could load out too. First I decided to use a bullet with a hard tip since I would most likely be rubbing the inside of the mag, that bullet would be the 110 HPBT.
Then I needed some other mags for a comparison, so looking through my selection these are the one I wanted to put up against the ASC. With these selections I figured it would put things into perspective and indeed it did.
2-15 round ASC New from ASC
2-25 round ASC about 3 years old
1-15 round PRI Gen1
2-25 round PRI Gen1
2-10 round PRI Gen3
Instead of posting a bunch of pictures of my calipers I will put the results in the form of a chart. I did perform the test with live ammo twice and used two different calipers to make sure I was getting proper reading, well at least close as I can get with the tools I have on hand. They are in order of largest OAL to smallest OAL
PRI Gen 1 15 round 2.324"
PRI Gen 1 25 round 2.315"
New ASC 15 round (test mag from ASC) 2.312"
Old ASC 25 round 2.312"
PRI Gen 1 25 round 2.312"
New ASC 15 round (test mag from ASC) 2.311"
Old ASC 25 round 2.311"
PRI Gen 3 10 round 2.305"
PRI Gen 3 10 round 2.304"
So with this knowledge I preceded to load up some live rounds with a OAL of 2.310" and head to my private range where I can put these mags under heavy fire. I brought out 3 6.8's my Stag 7H, 10.5" Noveske pistol, and 16" Bison the only gun I ever had problems with was the 7H but that was fixed with some feedramps and never had a problem since.
First I ran 3 rounds from each mag in each gun using my regular plinking ammo which is loaded out to 2.295". I was shooting for accuracy and took my time between each shot. That went just fine all rounds feed, ejected, and held the bolt open with a empty mag.
Next was to load them up to 15 rounds with the same plinking ammo of 2.295" and only ran the two fully loaded mags through my 7H. The type of shooting I was doing with this test was under heavy fire. I pulled the trigger as fast I as could tying to jam the gun any way possible. Everything went as it should and no issues.
Now for the longer OAL rounds which where loaded out to 2.310. I loaded up them up with 5 rounds in each mag and ran them through all three guns. Again I was shooting for accuracy and took my time between each shot. Everything perform like it should and had no issues.
In Summary
I am impressed with this little $18.00 mag. The OAL is better than the current PRI gen3 and performs the same as the PRI gen3, it isn't a bad looking mag with the logo on the side and slick finish. It is a well built mag and should hold up. I am looking forward to buying more but maybe next time I will get a different color like Pink, haha just kidding I was thinking FDE. I guess I will have to wait to see if they will hold up to loading and unloading. Best of all I didn't have to do any tweaking to the mag lips which I was prepared for, but I never had to tweak any of my mags for any of my guns. I know there are a few folks that have rifles that are sensitive to bullet angle, but mine are not.
I did tell ASC to take a look into the new Six8 platform and it's new mag dimensions, saying that currently there are no lower capacity mags for the platform and would be needed for mag restricted states. I also stated that with the large dimensions there is potential for even longer OAL which most people who reload for any AR variant are looking for. He said they will look into it and pass the info to the proper people within the company who look at new products. We can only hope they come through.
So I took it upon myself to verify the claims and contacted ASC to send me some sample mags for testing. Within 24 hours I had a reply notifying me that they would be happy to send me 2 15 round mag via UPS. So far so good, quick reply and had the mags in my hands within a week even with the nasty weather they had up there.
The mags where packed very well and had no chance being damaged, unless it was run over by a Mack truck. The mags where individually wrapped in a sealed plastic bag. Here are some pics of the mags and how I received them.
http://
http://
http://
First thing I noticed that the finish was different than my older ASC mag. It has much more black not like a lighter gray with my older ASC, they also added their name and logo to one side and the SS was stamped better. The follower and spring looked identical. The floor plate was changed a little, first the new plate has a slight bow to help with retention, second the stamping was changed with their new logo. The feel of the finish is pretty slick when compared to the older finish, in fact it is the sickest feeling mag I have and even better than any of my PRI's. Overall the changes where great and visually I have nothing bad to say. Here are some more pics to give you a idea what I am seeing.
http://
So I got right to work and preceded to measure the I.D. of the mag body's. So taking my dial calipers I measured the body's and here are the results. Within the range of the claims 2.3145 and 2.3155.
http://
Of course that would not be enough to satisfy my curiosity so I took things a bit further. I decided to needed to make some live rounds at different OAL's and see how far I could load out too. First I decided to use a bullet with a hard tip since I would most likely be rubbing the inside of the mag, that bullet would be the 110 HPBT.
Then I needed some other mags for a comparison, so looking through my selection these are the one I wanted to put up against the ASC. With these selections I figured it would put things into perspective and indeed it did.
2-15 round ASC New from ASC
2-25 round ASC about 3 years old
1-15 round PRI Gen1
2-25 round PRI Gen1
2-10 round PRI Gen3
Instead of posting a bunch of pictures of my calipers I will put the results in the form of a chart. I did perform the test with live ammo twice and used two different calipers to make sure I was getting proper reading, well at least close as I can get with the tools I have on hand. They are in order of largest OAL to smallest OAL
PRI Gen 1 15 round 2.324"
PRI Gen 1 25 round 2.315"
New ASC 15 round (test mag from ASC) 2.312"
Old ASC 25 round 2.312"
PRI Gen 1 25 round 2.312"
New ASC 15 round (test mag from ASC) 2.311"
Old ASC 25 round 2.311"
PRI Gen 3 10 round 2.305"
PRI Gen 3 10 round 2.304"
So with this knowledge I preceded to load up some live rounds with a OAL of 2.310" and head to my private range where I can put these mags under heavy fire. I brought out 3 6.8's my Stag 7H, 10.5" Noveske pistol, and 16" Bison the only gun I ever had problems with was the 7H but that was fixed with some feedramps and never had a problem since.
First I ran 3 rounds from each mag in each gun using my regular plinking ammo which is loaded out to 2.295". I was shooting for accuracy and took my time between each shot. That went just fine all rounds feed, ejected, and held the bolt open with a empty mag.
Next was to load them up to 15 rounds with the same plinking ammo of 2.295" and only ran the two fully loaded mags through my 7H. The type of shooting I was doing with this test was under heavy fire. I pulled the trigger as fast I as could tying to jam the gun any way possible. Everything went as it should and no issues.
Now for the longer OAL rounds which where loaded out to 2.310. I loaded up them up with 5 rounds in each mag and ran them through all three guns. Again I was shooting for accuracy and took my time between each shot. Everything perform like it should and had no issues.
In Summary
I am impressed with this little $18.00 mag. The OAL is better than the current PRI gen3 and performs the same as the PRI gen3, it isn't a bad looking mag with the logo on the side and slick finish. It is a well built mag and should hold up. I am looking forward to buying more but maybe next time I will get a different color like Pink, haha just kidding I was thinking FDE. I guess I will have to wait to see if they will hold up to loading and unloading. Best of all I didn't have to do any tweaking to the mag lips which I was prepared for, but I never had to tweak any of my mags for any of my guns. I know there are a few folks that have rifles that are sensitive to bullet angle, but mine are not.
I did tell ASC to take a look into the new Six8 platform and it's new mag dimensions, saying that currently there are no lower capacity mags for the platform and would be needed for mag restricted states. I also stated that with the large dimensions there is potential for even longer OAL which most people who reload for any AR variant are looking for. He said they will look into it and pass the info to the proper people within the company who look at new products. We can only hope they come through.