Depth perception/thermal
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A TV screen is the same. However with a TV you usually have visual referances. With thermal/using thermal,your depth perception would be fine if you had visual referances. As with a normal rifle scope,looking out over the landscape,you have tons of visual referances as to your known size of things. A tree,a bush,a rock wall,a pond,a cattle tank,a water well,a hog,deer,or other animals.
You know the approximate size,so you know how far away they are. Or a animal is standing next to a stock tank with 30" sides. That gives you the referance to use to guesstimate the size of the animal or how far away they both are.
I have said for a long time now,a thermal with a built in rangefinder (laser,NOT stadia wire)would be worth it's weight in gold. --- pruhdlr
You know the approximate size,so you know how far away they are. Or a animal is standing next to a stock tank with 30" sides. That gives you the referance to use to guesstimate the size of the animal or how far away they both are.
I have said for a long time now,a thermal with a built in rangefinder (laser,NOT stadia wire)would be worth it's weight in gold. --- pruhdlr
One thing I kinda picked up from the Reap and looking at new Pulsar stuff was the stadiametric range finder. I just did a rough measurement using my crosshairs on a 4' board and noticed the shorter section matched 4' at 100 yards at 3x. Figuring most of the larger pigs I see are about 3' - 4' in length, I can get a decent range estimate. Im usually not taking a shot over 200 unless its been a really slow night. If nothing else it just gives me a bit of confidence knowing Im pretty accurate at 100-200 yards.
ill give up depth perception for detection any day. Johnny Arfcom with his super squirrel sentinels can walk around step by step and see every twig and bush n front of him all night long that's great. I'd rather kill pigs.
When looking to buy a thermal,I considered several types of reticals offered. As with a daylight scope,you CAN use it to guesstimate ranges as long as you have it set to the same zoom setting everytime. With using a daylight scope it will usually be the highest setting (power). With thermal I could see that this could/would become a problem.
I would guess that with thermal,a power/zoom setting somewhere around 4X to 8X would be good. My ATN ThOR only has choices of 3X,6X,and 12X. So for me . . . the perfect thermal would be - - -> zoom up to 6X,put the laser on the target,hit the button,range read out in thermal viewer.
BUT,a question comes to mind. With the chamberings that we use (minus the 300BLK),if we feel the need to know the EXACT range to our target,could it be we are attempting to shoot too far ?? --- pruhdlr
I would guess that with thermal,a power/zoom setting somewhere around 4X to 8X would be good. My ATN ThOR only has choices of 3X,6X,and 12X. So for me . . . the perfect thermal would be - - -> zoom up to 6X,put the laser on the target,hit the button,range read out in thermal viewer.
BUT,a question comes to mind. With the chamberings that we use (minus the 300BLK),if we feel the need to know the EXACT range to our target,could it be we are attempting to shoot too far ?? --- pruhdlr
As far as shooting I'm always close enough for the range not to matter. But where range finding capabilities help is knowing how far I need to walk or if I can keep driving a bit.
Always cracks me up taking guys out new to thermal and having them think a rabbit a 50 yards is a hog at 150 yards. I've literally had people lined up to shoot a hog and have them shoot jackrabbits sitting closer to us because they thought it was a hog. In the large wheat fields I hunt mostly what helps me the most by guessing range is T posts, H braces, field/pasture boundary fences, brush piles, and telephone poles.
Also what screws up depth perception is field of view and magnification.
Always cracks me up taking guys out new to thermal and having them think a rabbit a 50 yards is a hog at 150 yards. I've literally had people lined up to shoot a hog and have them shoot jackrabbits sitting closer to us because they thought it was a hog. In the large wheat fields I hunt mostly what helps me the most by guessing range is T posts, H braces, field/pasture boundary fences, brush piles, and telephone poles.
Also what screws up depth perception is field of view and magnification.
I do the same with the IR Hunter MKIII on 9x (4.5x native magnification times 2 zoom). Pretty much any hog under ~225 lbs should be shorter than either the left or right arm of the crosshair if the hog is inside 200 yards or thereabouts. This guy was 210 lbs at 156 yards.
Take a look at the Pulsar apex LRF models. They will be available soon. Thermal scope with a built in laser range finder.
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djones
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i've never seen anything too far to shoot at
on my last hunt with goober he was scouting with the reap and told me to stop... something was out there.
i stop, get out and look for myself and there are two rabbits 10 feet away. i said do you really think a hog is going to be 10 feet from the truck?
Lol being where you are I know you've got jackrabbits about like we do I bet. Last night I went out to check a few fields with a buddy and we kept falling for jackrabbits for a minute or two before they'd stick their ears up. He's got a ton of coyotes so thats what we would think they were from time to time.i've never seen anything too far to shoot at
on my last hunt with goober he was scouting with the reap and told me to stop... something was out there.
i stop, get out and look for myself and there are two rabbits 10 feet away. i said do you really think a hog is going to be 10 feet from the truck?
Also it doesn't help when one field is cut and another isn't.
Fla_dogman
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It takes a lot of time behind a thermal scope to get use to it especially where range applied.
We've all been there. I've stalked up to some cows in a neighboring field that looked like hogs in our field. Turned around and got back to the truck and had a hard time believing myself that they weren't pigs lol.