"Wear That Mask !!!" (Uhhh, yeah)

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Today, I go to the grocery store to buy some things. When I get to the check-out, the clerk advises me that since I'm not wearing a mask, he is not allowed to accept my transaction, and that they will have to do my shopping for me through another means.

Politely, I advised him that: if a person has a medical condition which precludes them from wearing a mask, they are exempt.

He gives me an odd look and picks up his phone, and says: "I have a guy here who says he has a medical condition which precludes him from wearing a mask. Can I complete the transaction with him?" "Ok, thank you." And, after hanging up, advises me we can complete the transaction.

H.I.P.A.A. protects a patient's privacy concerning health matters. An attempt to force that information is a violation of the 4th Amendment of the Constitution (illegal search). The person on the other end of the phone was made aware of this, and did not ask him to find out the details.

As a side note, the clerk bumped (and knocked to the floor) the bottle of hand sanitizer... so, I'm ok with helping the guy out, and picked it up for him, rather than making him walk all the way around his check stand. He learned something new, made a friend, and life proceeds... and, I left the store with my groceries in hand. There was no need for me to be a dick about it (so, I didn't), he didn't have to enforce an illegal policy, so he was relieved.

In the end... a conservative put into action the left's battle cry: "Resist". And, it worked.
 
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Thank you so much for that info. I now have a "medical condition". Lots of studies that say mask don't stop a virus. Someone said it's like trying to keep out mosquito's with a chain link fence.
 

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Don't be a prick. The mask is for the benefit of you and whoever you are next to. Wear the mask!!!!
 

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Thank you so much for that info. I now have a "medical condition". Lots of studies that say mask don't stop a virus. Someone said it's like trying to keep out mosquito's with a chain link fence.
That is what I have gathered from my reading as well... particularly these cotton cloth things everyone around me are wearing... making at home and selling to make a buck. I don't trust an urban stranger making masks from home as something which is going to preserve my life. With my luck, their cat will sit its butt-hole on the portion going next to my face. LOL

I've also read that the wearing of the mask can reduce oxygen content in your system with extended use. Great... so now we're going to take a group of people who don't know which bathroom to use after eating a packet of soap... rioting and burning our cities... and lower the amount of oxygen going to their already poorly functioning brain. Some are claiming the chances of pneumonia are increased, particularly for those who've already had pneumonia numerous times in their life.

I'm just not "feeling it" all.
 

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I got the nastiest look from the door greeter at Wal Mart last week. I tore the ear strap on my mask putting it on and didn’t have another in the car. She told me that Wal Mart highly recommended all customers to wear masks. I told her I was trying to catch it to get 14 days away from my wife. No sense oh humor at all.
 

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I know a guy who thought the same thing. He was buried last week.
My condolences for your loss. A husband/wife whom I knew in my younger days, are battling it now. They have underlying medical issues which make them more vulnerable. My life is not "untouched" by this virus, however, I do not buy into the attempts to gain political power by mandating nonsense.

When masses are not only "allowed", but "encouraged" to assemble for "peaceful protesting"... to feed one side of a political agenda... yet I am "forbidden" to gather in church to worship and ask God Almighty to deliver us from this madness? I will stand for my Constitutionally guaranteed rights before bowing my knee to an imbecile's edicts motivated purely to attain power... power he's demanding that "We the People" submit to him upon demand. My perspective is different from yours my friend.

I am not surrounded by mostly good/God-fearing decent folks. I live minutes from downtown Seattle. "Chaz" is less than 4 miles from my home. I see these maniacal misfits of a soured culture daily. I see crowds of pink hat wearing idiots parading on my overpass (to/from work) waving their banners of hate day after day. My scriptures tell me that a double minded man is unstable in ALL his way... yet, I'm required to sit inside of a car with an individual who doesn't know which bathroom to use, is dressing in a manner to try and fool people that they're a different gender than how they were created... and have to be kind as I try to articulate to them (in an un-offensive manner) why their attempts at operating a car just isn't going to work, because they're so screwed up between the ears, they have no commons sense (let alone how to use any they might actually find within).

On my route to work, there is one home owner who... over the past 5 years, has re-painted the wall of his garage almost once a month, only to find fresh trash spray-painted the very next day. Messages of hate defacing his personal property, his HOME. At present is "A.C.A.B." related garbage ("All Cops Are Bastards"). I'm seeing my home town city becoming the next Detroit urban area.

Where I live, it's NOT about helping people to stay healthy (it is masked as that). It's about mandating the submission and obedience of the masses, to condition them to obey unconditionally. A cotton bandana (used as a bank robber would in an old western movie) is deemed Ok to be in public with. It's a sign of "submission" to authority. It's like putting up a chain link fence to keep mosquitos out (in reality).
 

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I certainly think a mask is more effective than a chain link fence for mosquitoes. It's not the perfect prevention technique, but I believe that we all need to do what we can to slow the spread of COVID-19. Yep, I know folks around here who believe that the gummit just wants us to wear masks so we'll become submissive, accept wearing hijabs, and eventually allow the feds to implant chips in us so they can control us like dogs and cats.

I tend to view that as a little too conspiratorial. Plus, I'm an old guy who doesn't need any more ailments. I wear a mask whenever I go out in public other than to exercise (walk around the neighborhood).
 

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I am retired, so I don't go out except to hog hunt, church, and get groceries, but when I do go out I wear my mask (except for hog hunting).
 

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First of all, I wear a mask (usually) just to make other people FEEL comfortable. The truth is, the only mask that will do ANYTHING to help the person wearing it is an N95 style mask provided it isn't a knock-off counterfeit, but try to find one of them now and see how much luck you have. All the other masks are useless to the wearer as any protection from diseases like viruses. The reason is that the air being breathed by the wearer is filtered of all particle approximately 100 microns and larger in size, but anything smaller passes right through. The corona virus is smaller than 0.1 microns in size and therefore passes through all the available face coverings available to the average person. So unless you are prepared to go around in a level 4 hazmat suite with respirator, you are just doing it because it FEELS good, but its not doing you any good.
 

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It depends on who's deciding: “You have to wear a face covering inside of a business unless you are exempt for a certain reason,” Gappert said.

Seattle businesses could lose licenses, go to jail or pay fines for not enforcing mask rule

So, locally, businesses are being extorted into forcing a compliance... "... unless you are exempt for a certain reason,".

So... if the same imbeciles are mandating you get a shot which they've deemed required, are you going to obey? If they continue to test your obedience, at what point are you going to say: "You know... enough is enough."?

Again, my perspective is very different. I'm NOT surrounded by hard working, honest, God-fearing, common sense based people. They do exist around here, but are becoming a minority, and are being silenced if their opinion varies from what is "P.C.". Mob rule is becoming the norm around here. My attitude towards the mask thing would be different IF: it was a mask which actually protected me; there was actual proof of legitimate risk; it was being instituted by someone OTHER than a power hungry politician telling me a bandana is good enough... so long as I'm in compliance with his edict.

TWO city council members do not support defunding the city's Police Department. Their homes are seeing protests. One council woman has come right out and said: Fire all the white cops. One of the city council members is a Socialist. What most of America sees on the news, they shake their heads and go about their daily business... THIS is the madness surrounding me. This IS becoming the daily norm. This IS more than expressing concern for the welfare of society. This is conditioning the citizenry to unconditionally obey authority and to relinquish freedom and rights... upon demand, for the good of the whole.

Rantz: Seattle Councilmember Lisa Herbold suggests SPD fire white cops

Residents march to Seattle council member's home for not publicly supporting defunding SPD | king5.com

The madness in this city is incredible. A local business owner ("Molly Moon's Ice Cream") has posted her policy of refusing to serve Police Officers who enter her store, armed with their department issued sidearm. For the sake of protecting the feelings of her employees who may not feel comfortable confronting them and asking them to not come in with a gun.

Molly Moon's Ice Cream bans police with guns, officers respond

I wish I could find the MEME which shows an Islamic women declaring: "I cover my face to show submissiveness to my God"... and another woman wearing a paper mask and says: "Me Too." Many laugh, around here, it's becoming too true to BE funny.
 
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Hmmm... m'be this would make 'em happy...

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ScottJ

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I have some N95's and FFP2's (same as N95) and I wear them when going into Walmart and such. And I've worn them for hours on end while doing car bodywork... no oxygen deprivation passing out or headaches. You don't need to catch each virus particle with the mask, just the droplets which carry the virus. Also, even if you don't get all of them with your mask, getting some blocked will likely make your resulting illness less severe (initial dose is tied to illness severity in many viruses and it's looking like CoV-2 is the same). Of course there's also the benefit of greatly slowing the velocity of your exhaled breath which diminishes the distance you may be expelling the virus to others. In short, be nice and wear the masks whenever possible around others at least until we have a good vaccine.
 

ScottJ

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Gun ownership (or any rights) should not be political. And nor should mask wearing or other similar topics. But our "news" is nothing more than entertainment... sources chasing ratings ($$$) by feeding a specific audience outrage and confirmation bias 24/7 while demonizing those from the other political side. We should all demand better, but we like being worked up and angry, so we get addicted to the garbage (FOX, MSNBC, etc.). Unfortunately, some people are so happy to be angry that it's the only thing which really pleases them. Poor souls.
 

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And, some of us are so fed up with television (in general) that in the last 12 months, my TV set has been turned on ONCE... to watch hydroplane races which were happening in town that day. And, prior to that, my TV hadn't been on for nearly a year as well. So, some of us don't fit that mold either.
 
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