Caught a sounder of about 25-30 an hour before dark, on a 200 acre hay meadow, chased them on a mule pro, with an AR15, dropped 10 on the meadow, 2 in the river, 12 total, my best to date for most numbers, it was quite the rideo for about 15 minutes, went through 4 mags, can't beat those day light hogs