New Pulsar Thermion Thermal Scopes for Summer 2019

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Hmmm... wonder what the price point will be on it? Inktristink.
 

Mindreader1

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So they've now become ATN copycats? The new Thor 4 line is pretty much the same thing - granted from a useless brand. Only issue I see with this is the size - I want to still use the scope for spotting and having a rifle scope sized unit would be a big stretch
 

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Everybody copies everybody, LOL, but ATN copied Sightmark's Photon design from NV (Pulsar and Sightmark being partners here in the US) and that copied traditional daylight scope designs. Going with the more traditional rifle scope design appeals to a much wider audience. Not everybody in the US shoots a rifle with picatinny rails, but they can get 30mm scope rings regardless of the type of rifle/rings interface. In Europe, which is where Pulsar is based, right, picatinny rails are definitely not the main stream. So the ring system is a pretty smart move, befitting their primary European market and readily usable in their secondary American market.

I don't know any daylight hunters that want to use their rifle scope as their spotting scope. There are some good reasons for not doing so.
 

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Interesting scope!! Looks like they are starting to use the 12 um cores. But only for the 320x240

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Sidelight

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The 12µm core is listed as being of 320x240 resolution. I wonder if this means it's being outsourced or something? As I can't locate any current pulsar product using that sensor, and the 17µm hasn't been out all that long.

Also interested on how power source will be managed in such a small package.
To be honest, unless those turrets are externally and repeatability adjustable - I think they'd be missing some market.
 

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Pulsar has used Ulis cores and will probably continue to do so.

Don't think of the turrets as anything other than a type of rotary switch. Everything is electronic, 8ncluding crosshairs. Everything should be fully repeatable.
 

Mindreader1

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The way I read it - there is a "or" between both 320 / 640 and 12 / 17 micron, suggesting to me there are four ways to configure it off the bat. If it's only 320 with a 12 micron core then I would have thought one or is enough.
The 12µm core is listed as being of 320x240 resolution. I wonder if this means it's being outsourced or something? As I can't locate any current pulsar product using that sensor, and the 17µm hasn't been out all that long.

Also interested on how power source will be managed in such a small package.
To be honest, unless those turrets are externally and repeatability adjustable - I think they'd be missing some market.
 

Drift

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Brian, when you say " The real question is if they will make them more "substantial" " what are you saying?
 

neorubio

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Everybody copies everybody, LOL, but ATN copied Sightmark's Photon design from NV (Pulsar and Sightmark being partners here in the US) and that copied traditional daylight scope designs. Going with the more traditional rifle scope design appeals to a much wider audience. Not everybody in the US shoots a rifle with picatinny rails, but they can get 30mm scope rings regardless of the type of rifle/rings interface. In Europe, which is where Pulsar is based, right, picatinny rails are definitely not the main stream. So the ring system is a pretty smart move, befitting their primary European market and readily usable in their secondary American market.

I don't know any daylight hunters that want to use their rifle scope as their spotting scope. There are some good reasons for not doing so.

I think you just nailed it here. I fully agree with everything you said. I don't know the American market but in Europe, if it works fine, this will be a success. This is very good news for me since I'll be able to use apel rings for my apel mounts, that is what I'm using on two of my rifles. Plus, I am looking forward to seeing that 12µm core running (a pity it won't be 640...).
 

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Brian, when you say " The real question is if they will make them more "substantial" " what are you saying?

On the magnification, but I don't think they will be doing that. The ad shows an XP50. Right now with the Trail, the XP50 is top of the line with 640 resolution, 17 micron, 1.6x that had a detection range of 1800 meters. The advertised detection range in the ad is 1800 meters, which would seem to indicate that the new XP50 Thermion will also be 1.6x, 17 micron, 640 resolution. Most folks don't do much shooting at 1.6x. Why? Because it isn't enough magnification. Maybe Pulsar will have an XP75 hiding in the wings as they did briefly with the Apex that will have something a bit closer to Texas-sized magnification.
 

deltav

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Anyone know who manufactures the core Pulsar uses and will it be the same with their new 12 micron coming out? Also is there any way to purchase just the core from that maker?
 

Drift

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I think the thing that intrigues me most about this product is that it looks like it could replace both my day scope and night scope. It would sure be nice to have "just one" that could be used both day and night. 1 caliber, 1 scope and 1 rifle. To walk in during deer season at 3 am; shoot a pig if I see one, shoot a deer in daylight and repeat the other way in the evening. And NOT stand out with a "funny looking" scope in deer camp sounds good too. And being able to switch off between a bolt action deer rifle and a tactical rifle easily, sounds good to.
 

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I’m not really concerned with whether or not it uses 30mm scope rings or looks like the current trail models. I would like to see a 12 micron core with a 640 resolution and a 2.5-3.5x native magnification that has all the features of the current trail line that works as advertised and comes in at a lower price point than the trijicon scopes. Hopefully pulsar surprises us with good news.

Has anyone heard of anything new coming out from trijicon?
 

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I’m not really concerned with whether or not it uses 30mm scope rings or looks like the current trail models. I would like to see a 12 micron core with a 640 resolution and a 2.5-3.5x native magnification that has all the features of the current trail line that works as advertised and comes in at a lower price point than the trijicon scopes. Hopefully pulsar surprises us with good news.

Has anyone heard of anything new coming out from trijicon?

I think the next stuff will be HD with the 12 micron stuff. There has been some talk about 8 micron cores but I don't think technology is quite there yet.
 
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